Good spark and fuel are, as you know not enough to start an ATV engine. That said, you are on the right track and as a mechanic, I too would begin troubleshooting by checking spark and fuel supply. Spark and fuel issues are the most common ATV no-start causes. That said there’s is one more ingredient we need to consider and in this post, we’ll look at all three ingredients needed to start an ATV engine in more detail.
An ATV engine that’s getting spark and fuel but won’t start likely suffers from low cylinder compression or incorrect engine timing. Poor valve lash, failed head gasket and worn piston rings are common causes of low cylinder compression.
There are many possible reasons of course for an ATV no-start and in this post, we’ll attempt to cover the most likely causes.
ATV Engine Needs Three Things To Start
An ATV engine needs many components and sequences to play its part in order for the engine to burst into life. When troubleshooting a no-start, technicians are trained to focus on the Holy Grail that’s fuel, spark, and compression systems.
Fuel is not just gas. Since an engine won’t burn gas alone, the gas must be mixed with oxygen (air) and so we describe the mixture of gas and air as fuel. The gas element of the fuel must be fresh. Most folks don’t know that gas goes stale after a couple of months (and earlier depending on how it’s stored) and if you don’t ride regularly it is very likely the gas in your ATV tank is stale,
Stale gas lacks isn’t as combustible and so starting an engine can be challenging especially when the engine is cold. So without combustible fresh gas, an ATV will struggle to start,
Fresh gas is great but without a spark to ignite our fuel mixture our engine isn’t going to fire. Just any old spark isn’t going to do it either. A weak spark will be extinguished by the fuel mix instead of igniting it.
The third and final ingredient is compression. Without a compressed combustion chamber the mix isn’t confined or heated to a point where conditions are perfect for ignition and so the starting sequence of ignition, combustion, and power stroke doesn’t happen.
Diagnosing ATV Spark & Fuel But No-Start
Checking spark and gas is among the first checks to make when diagnosing a no-start. As said earlier, you are on the correct track, and very shortly we’ll have this figured out.
Before we get knee-deep in diagnoses, let us make some simple checks first, and here’s why. As a trained technician with twenty-five years under my belt (and of course been bitten a few times), I like to check a fact is a fact.
And so with that said I like to verify some common errors, I know this may seem trivial but I’m often surprised by the errors made by simply making assumptions. And so work with here and let’s assume nothing for the next few paragraphs.
Basic ATV No-Start Checks
Starting most engines will require using some type of gas enrichment to counteract the oxygen-rich mix associated with cold starts. An engine loves a mix of air (oxygen) to gas of 14.7 to 1 (14.7 parts oxygen to 1 part gas). It’s known as the AFR (Air Fuel Ratio).
Since cold air is richer in oxygen than warm air, cold engine starts are an oxygen-rich environment. Conversely, the engine under these conditions is described as suffering from a lean condition. Lean means the gas component of the mix is insufficient.
And so since cold engine starts naturally offers the engine greater oxygen we need to adjust the mix so that the ratio is back in line with the optimum 14.7 to 1 AFR ratio.
Adjustment is handled differently by different engines. Some do it automatically and others require the operator to manually adjust. The approach to adjusting is also handled differently by different engine makers, some add extra gas while others restrict airflow to the engine, it’s known as a choke. More oxygen means we need to add more gas.
Just before we get to diagnosing the choke I should point out how important and fresh gas is and how common stale gas is. Especially in engines that lay idle for long periods. As said modern gas is blended and goes stale surprisingly quickly and depending on where it’s stored it may go stale within as little as a month. If your ATV has been sitting idle for some time, expect a fuel issue as the root cause.
Draining old gas and refilling with fresh consider adding a fuel stabilizer which will keep the gas fresh for about a year.
Choke diagnosis consists of first checking the correct starting procedure is being used and if so, is the choke system working correctly? I like to check the air filter early in the troubleshooting procedure, removing the filter and attempting to start the engine is a fast way to eliminate it as a possible issue.
Then I’ll move on and run the following tests.
Correct Cold Start Procedure – You likely already know the correct procedure but if you are unsure go ahead and google your make and model to verify. Sure you say, but my ATV started fine without choke previously. I say Ok but is the weather colder now? If so, the engine likely just needs some choke.
Remember the lower the ambient temperature the harder your ATV will be to start.
Is Choke Working Correctly? – I understand this can be difficult to answer and will require some stripping to access carburetor etc., but I got you covered, there’s a shortcut known as the “Gas shot.”
Gas Shot – The gas shot test is a simple test where we pour fresh gas into the cylinder. The gas shot test is an elimination round and answers many questions very quickly. I use it in the workshop all the time. The idea is simple, and here it is:
- Remove spark plug
- Add small amount of gas (about oil cap full) (gas must be fresh)
- Refit spark plug
- Attempt to start engine
Mechanic top tip – A funnel or syringe makes adding gas to the cylinder a ton easier.
With the test out of the way now we’ll need to analyze the results, and the two results likely are as follows:
1 – The engine started, or fired (fired – meaning attempted to start). Firing can be identified as the engine not running but smoke seen at the tailpipe when cranking.
This result tells us that your ATV suffers from a fuel issue. Bad gas, Choke not working, Faulty fuel pump (if fitted), Blocked gas filter, Carburetor fault are all high on the list.
2 – The engine doesn’t start and critically makes no attempt to fire. This result tells us that you may have an ignition system fault or a compression or timing issue. Since a lack of spark is the more likely issue we’ll look at that fault first before checking compression and timing.
If after running the Gas shot test you found you may have a spark issue then you’ll want to check your spark again. I understand you have a spark but is the spark strong enough? A weak spark is the worst kind to have, as it causes you to discount the ignition system as the root cause of your no-start.
The components of the ignition system are as follows:
- Spark Plug
- Pick up
- CDI Module
As you have previously checked spark we’ll make this one assumption for now – we’ll assume the ignition system works as there is at least some sign of spark.
I like to try a jump start when I suspect weak spark. A rotating engine is required in order to create a spark (about 400 rpm) and so a slow cranking engine may cause a weak spark.
Jump starting of course scavenges power from an external battery thereby boosting your ATV battery. Try a boost start, but before jump-starting, check your battery terminals are clean and tight. Loose dirty terminals are a common cause of no-starts.
If you find your ATV starts with a jump, suspect a weak battery. A battery test will confirm failure.
If your ATV still won’t start, try swapping the spark plug for a new or known good one. I advise checking spark using a spark test tool. It’s a tool designed to stress the ignition system and often shows a fault were previously checking spark MacGyver style showed none.
If you don’t have a spark test tool, move on for now and check compression.
Compression is an engine’s ability to squash and maintain the cylinder’s contents inside the combustion chamber. When the contents are packed tightly into the combustion chamber, the spark plug fires, and combustion occurs. However, if compression isn’t built or maintained inside the chamber at the critical moment, (past TDC) the mix won’t ignite.
And so low compression is a possible cause of no-start.
Low Compression Common Causes
There’s a ton of causes of low compression, likely the most serious is engine wear. Not what any ATV owner wants to hear. However, not all causes of low compression are that serious.
Here’s a list of common causes:
- Engine wear
- Valve wear
- Valve lash adjustment required
- Blown head gasket
How To Check Compression
Checking compression correctly requires a compression test kit or a leak-down tester may be used to identify compression loss.
A compression tester gives an exact reading such as 100 psi, (between 95-115 psi normal) this reading is then matched against a workshop manual where the engine maker will give a min reading.
A leak-down test in many ways is more useful. It involves filling the cylinder with compressed air and using a test tool to measure the cylinder’s ability to hold pressure over a given period. The added bonus of this test kit is its simultaneous ability to point to the area at fault. In a problem engine, the compressed air will be heard to leak from the cylinder. Diagnosis as follows:
Air leaking from:
- Oil cap or dipstick – worn piston rings
- From muffler – Exhaust valve issue (worn seat or adjustment)
- From carburetor /air box – Intake valve issue (worn seat or adjustment)
- Between cylinder head and block – Head gasket failure
Testing Compression MacGyver Style
What if you don’t have either test kit to hand? We can try the MacGyver compression test kit. It involves our thumb and a rubber glove…..It’s not what you think.
This test method isn’t scientific or very accurate, it’s loosely accurate, a blunt tool if you like, but it does hold some value.
Test as follows:
- Remove spark plug
- Ground plug against cylinder head or use a jumper cable to remotely ground. An un-grounded coil wire will give you a jolt and is also bad for the ignition system.
- Place your thumb over the the open plug hole (important to wear rubber glove)
- Have helper crank engine
Two results are likely:
1 You’ve got some compression – You feel the effects of good compression on your thumb (vacuum and then propulsion)
2 You have no compression – You feel the effects of a lack of compression as your thumb will feel mild or no effects of vacuum and propulsion as the engine is cranked over.
A lack of compression will likely require the aforementioned leak-down test kit to diagnose the root cause.
If all checks out so far or at least as best you can tell then there’s one more item we can check Engine timing. The engine as you know is like a watch, the internal parts all play a part and they each have their moment to shine. When timing is off, it means some of the internal components are doing their thing too early or too late, usually the latter.
So how can you tell if the timing is off? It involves removing some engine covers to check crankshaft and camshaft gear/sprocket markings. It’s not difficult and I covered it previously in this post “How to tell ATV jumped time.”
How does the timing go out?
Three reasons are common:
- Jumped time – Timing sprocket wear allows the chain to slip a tooth or two.
- Rebuild error – Error made when refitting the timing chain.
- Stretched chain – As chains wear they stretch and this causes the relationship between the crank and cam to change
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